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khuhner
Re: A Vision Statement for Xoops.
  • 2007/8/12 20:29

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Quote:

BlueStocking wrote:
@khuhner, you wouldn't be telling Northern his opinions aren't worth the bandwidth are you??


BlueStocking:

The original post from kc0maz asked for a vision statement. I delivered what was asked. I also added a Mission Statement. Opinions are always welcome, however, nobody, except myself has posted a Vision or Mission Statement.



Kurt



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khuhner
Re: how can I change xoops to be like this simple website
  • 2007/8/12 15:57

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vividona wrote:
Quote:

ElCid wrote:
This was done with front page 5.0


thank you Sir
but is it possible to do this through xoops?


Yes. But you'd have to put the "content" into Xoops. That can be done by copy-and-paste the data into custom "blocks". It can also be done with several of the content editing modules out there (I use cjayedit). It has a WSYWIG editor so you can copy text into it or type it in.

Then you place these "blocks" on the home page in the Admin pages.

Kurt



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khuhner
Re: Someone to install Xoops for me
  • 2007/8/12 15:49

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Quote:

kevcar wrote:
How can I find someone to install XOOPS for me, and what would it cost for this. I am based in the South Wales UK


I can help you out but it may be worth locating an Internet Service Provider (ISP) that installs XOOPS for you. I have site5.com and thay have it. All you do is click the button and it's installed!

Kurt



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khuhner
Re: A Vision Statement for Xoops.
  • 2007/8/12 14:41

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Quote:

Northern wrote:
• As for modules, they need to have somthing on them and place in a spot that states they are for version 1 or 2
if they are php4 or php5, sql4 sql5 ready, same with the core files. as for the cerrent modules, almost half the modules we have dont work any more due to version change or not php5 ready. for this we need some one that is good in code, and XOOPS core files, and fix the modules, sence thats is one of the larges complaints....


See 2nd bullet point of my Mission Statement. This is exactly what I am taling about. But if you read the entire point it said "(need to establish consensus on what this entails)". So it still needs to be worked out. I suggest something like Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum certified modules, themes, etc. An example would be Bronze is PHP4, MySQL 4, Silver could be PHP5, MySQL5, Gold could be XOOPS 2.0.* and 2.* compatible and Platinum wouled be something above that! Agree?


Quote:

Northern wrote:
•• As for offical modules and modules added to the "Out of the box" xoops, this was done in the pre 2.0.11 . Its unsure why they desided to remove them, but they did..


Not sure I understand this one, but it seems related to the statement above ("Official" modules?).


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Northern wrote:
••• Put them back in there, update them, you can still offer the packets of "theme" based modules
Just give a new user somthing to tinker with while they start to understand what they have.


Same as "Certified" modules as stated above


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Northern wrote:
• Theme, if we can get some theme designers to take the cerrent themes we do have, and convert them to 2.0.14+
we will have less of a headack, but as said in the modules section, these to should be placed in a spot that states they are for version 1 or 2.


Again, "Certified" components.


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Northern wrote:
• Generate revenue
Im sure if just these ( above ) are met, many users will chip in some $ to have themes and modules updated and converted to work on the cerrent, and future version of xoops. granted many versions and XOOPS based modules are built and made free of charge, and those that arnt have been donated to and charged for.
why cant xoops? chage for the use of the name.. or to be a partner, "offical" does mean alot....
If the core team cam out with a killer looking userpanel as a update im sure no one will mine if that hade to pay for it.... say 20 bux....


"Killer userpanel"? Not sure what you are looking for, but this is an idea addressed by my 5th bullet point in the my Mission Statement. However $20 aint gonna cut it. We need to get full time programmers, theme writers, etc driving this thing.

How about a Corporate Sponsorship? X Window System (X, or X11) was Open Source but someone came along and Created Motif (a toolkit to work with X) and it was a great success. Why cant we do the same here?[/quote]


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Northern wrote:
• The cerrent XOOPS •

now thats a isue in its self....

most of use ( if you have been here around 2005-2006 ) or have asked about the avatars....found out that XOOPS has a bad db..

Well fix it. dont sit on it.
so what, the xoops_config is all messed up..



What?


Quote:

Northern wrote:
( Im cerrently doing this with HelpXoops.info )
its about 85-90% done, i just need to deal with the blocks... )


So yet another website for yet another branch of Xoops. Great work.


Quote:

Northern wrote:
these are a few that came to mine.


Thanks for your ideas, however, kc0maz asked for a Vision Mission Statement. Not a long drawn out post about stuff that's broken.

Quote:

kc0maz wrote:


What is your vision of the XOOPS product?

What is your vision of the XOOPS project?



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khuhner
Re: A Vision Statement for Xoops.
  • 2007/8/11 18:30

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Quote:

Northern wrote:
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khuhner wrote:
So Northern, what ideas, thoughts, suggestions do you have to move this forward?



Personaly, and from what ive seen, my oppinion and may other's oppinions arent worth the broadwidth we use..

but i will always be here, and so i will reply. lol



I'm sorry Northern. Where are your thoughts on Vision, Mission and future of Xoops? I may have missed them as I dont see them here



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khuhner
Re: A Vision Statement for Xoops.
  • 2007/8/11 17:42

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Quote:

kc0maz wrote:

Good point. Shall we start to work on that.

First let's come up with a vision statement for XOOPS the product and a vision statement for the project.

Then we will come up with road map or mission statement of how we are going to get there.

Discussion about a vision and mission for the community will take place on Xoopsinfo.com.

What is your vision of the XOOPS product?

What is your vision of the XOOPS project?



kc0maz, I'd rather post my thoughts here on Xoops.org.

Here is my Vision and Mission Statement for Xoops:

Vision Statement
Xoops is powerful, integrated CMS environment used in the creation and maintenance of commercial and personal websites.

Mission Statement
• Foster a centralized unified community for end users, developers (core, module, theme, etc.), and documentation specialists
• Certify modules as “Xoops Ready” (need to establish consensus on what this entails) to ensure successful implementation
• Distribute XOOPS as a package of XOOPS core, modules, themes that are maintained by XOOPS on Xoops.org.
• Generate revenue streams for development, enhancements, and upgrades.
• Create and maintain new product offerings that are easily deployed and flexible by the entire XOOPS user base.

Respectfully submitted,

Kurt



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khuhner
Re: A Vision Statement for Xoops.
  • 2007/8/11 17:13

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Quote:

Northern wrote:
opensource or not, its still a busness, and it should be viewd as one.


Northern - I couldnt agree more.

Quote:

Northern wrote:

would rather have everyone go to another site for help of to talk.
its not right..


EXACTLY.

Quote:

Northern wrote:

if you need to restructure, then make a subdomain.
forums.xoops.org or support.xoops.org
not or well we would like you to go to some otherxoopssite.net for help....


DITTO.


So Northern, what ideas, thoughts, suggestions do you have to move this forward?

Kurt



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khuhner
Re: A Vision Statement for Xoops.
  • 2007/8/11 17:01

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Quote:

BlueStocking wrote:
To: khuhner amd all others.

Since things seem to be spreading out and the community is being shifted from from xoops.org I am hoping to put together a site that allows us to keep in contact.

http://www.xoops.net.br/index.php?title=Xoopswiki2:Community_Portal << check in and leave


Thanks for you comments BlueStocking. However by advertising yet another "Xoops" website, it is furthering the fragementation of XOOPS community, members, etc.

Why not post HERE? Lets fix XOOPS first.

BTW, I am formulating thoughs on Vision Statement and Mission Statements....I'd be interested to see what you and others are thinking.

Kurt



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khuhner
Re: A Vision Statement for Xoops.
  • 2007/8/11 14:50

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Quote:

kc0maz wrote:
Discussion about a vision and mission for the community will take place on Xoopsinfo.com.

What is your vision of the XOOPS product?

What is your vision of the XOOPS project?


I'd love to submit some ideas :)

Why is the discussion on the vision of XOOPS taking place on XoopsInfo.com rather than Xoops.org?

Kurt



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khuhner
Re: How to customize homepage?
  • 2007/8/11 14:45

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You can create a custom "block" and dump html into it

You can use a content editing module (I like cjayedit) and create the news there.

You can make a News block visisble as the only block on the main page.


Several options....

Kurt




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