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Re: "Universal" module framework...
  • 2010/8/6 2:39

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Did I say Trabis leached code without attribution? No. You interpreted it that way. I did see the reference to IPF and it was adequate, but not sufficient. A short post in the forums is not full attribution, is it? Honestly, how many people actually know what 'IPF' is?

I am doing the best I can to restrain myself. This really isn't about the fork at all. Or, even about a 'module' framework, or the source of the code in xmf.

John N has some very valid concerns and you should listen to him. Do you think Ono, Mith and Skalpa left because they had nothing else to offer XOOPS? No, they left because people became short-sighted and stopped listening to them.

Once again, the XOOPS community is asking for transparency, not just code. They want to participate. It might seem scary or difficult to manage, but it can be done.

I hope you realize, as I posted earlier, that the core is a framework all its own, with a collection of other frameworks. There is a dependency of the core on modules and also a dependency of the modules on the core. They cannot be separated. If there was a 1-way dependency, only then could you separate them.

Back to being transparent, honest and having integrity - Will allow the word that cannot be spoken in the forums as a credit in your code? Trabis isn't using code that is 6 years old. He's using work Marc-Andre and I have committed in the past weeks and have been working on for several months. Openly, BTW. Can I provide a link to the SVN?



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Re: "Universal" module framework...
  • 2010/8/6 0:22

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redheadedrod wrote:

Well you have to start somewhere. And why reinvent the wheel. This is one of the beauties of open source code...


The beauty of opensource also can be ugly. If that were not true, then there would be no quarrels or litigation in OSS.

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To get a starting point I don't see an issue with using other peoples code. And actually as I have already said i would be looking at taking more then one of these developer frameworks and combining them into one. With the intention that you can hopefully just use the one framework with all of the supported pieces. Not to mention that the other developers have already worked these out for a reason.


Learning from and applying patterns to development is an honorable practice. Leaching code without attribution is not.

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But that is one of the purposes of this thread to discuss the starting point.

Doesn't necessarily mean the end product will be just a repackaging of something such as smartobjects.


Be careful here - you might not be fully informed about what Trabis is offering as 'xmf'.





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Re: "Universal" module framework...
  • 2010/8/6 0:13

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Catzwolf wrote:

Trabis,

Since we both know that most of your work and my work is mostly derived from the core in some form or fashion, please tell me why this should NOT be included within the core and part of the core?

We both know that it should be and I cannot fathom for my life why we are even entertaining this idea of a module framework that is separate from the core.


What is the core except a framework of frameworks?



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Re: "Universal" module framework...
  • 2010/8/4 23:00

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trabis wrote:
It is heavily based on smartobject and IPF.


'heavily based' doesn't even come close to describing the origin of the code.



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Re: piCal-0.93 Pop-up calendar display transparent in firefox
  • 2010/6/16 20:57

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I had similar problems - if you are using a class='calendar' in your theme, it will override the class for the calendar pop-up. In my case, I was using a smarty tag that would add a class to the body based on the current directory and I had pical installed in a directory named 'calendar'.



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Re: Oledrion items' limit
  • 2010/6/5 21:05

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I suspect suhosin might be involved - it can limit the max number of POST variables, which will break a form submit when you reach a certain number of fields on a form.



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Re: Problems with Wiwimod / SimplyWiki with Xoops 2.4.4
  • 2010/4/23 11:33

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skenow wrote:
Yes, SimplyWiki handles migrating from Wiwimod 0.83. Just copy the new files into the wiwimod directory and update the module.


SimplyWiki can be installed in any directory on initial install. For an upgrade, it might be possible to, you would just have to do more work. I haven't done it, so I don't have any experience to share with you.



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Re: Problems with Wiwimod / SimplyWiki with Xoops 2.4.4
  • 2010/4/21 3:45

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Yes, SimplyWiki handles migrating from Wiwimod 0.83. Just copy the new files into the wiwimod directory and update the module.



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Re: Problems with Wiwimod / SimplyWiki with Xoops 2.4.4
  • 2010/3/23 23:32

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This
forum thread
began the transition from Wiwimod to SimplyWiki and I've been releasing updates on a fairly regular basis. The best place to keep up with releases is on my site (always in my signature). Having to monitor several sites for support requests is quite a time waster.

I check these forums from time-to-time, and have Google alerts check for any wiwimod/simplywiki references. Contact me directly through my site - I wished we would get emails when someone sent us a PM.

You can get PDF output with the current version of SimplyWiki, but the library needs to be updated so UTF8/multibyte languages are converted properly - it's on the list of things to do.

The diff function could be improved somewhat, but isn't high on my list of things. I'll have another look at it.

Thanks for all your interest!



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Re: Problems with Wiwimod / SimplyWiki with Xoops 2.4.4
  • 2010/3/23 2:34

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1) No question marks for new pages


Is the image missing? Check the source of the page.

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2) Still pup-up in new window (just on page created by user to another page created by user and not in page created by Wiwimod like Index or navigation page links)


Again, check the source of the page, specifically the page link. If the wiki plugin for XOOPS is also defining wiki links, it may be placing an attribute (target="_blank") in the link to open it in a new window.

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by btesec on 2010/3/2 19:44:22

would be good to see the simplywiki module be developed further since is offers very good and simple collaboration environment.


I do continue to develop SimplyWiki, version 1.1.1 was just released as a final in December and I have a list of improvements that will be added in 1.2. I've even ensured it continues to work in XOOPS.

Functionality, such as you see in Wave, is not currently being considered.




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